inflatedmoose:

brittathinksyoureedible:

inflatedmoose:

rosalarian:

I’ve been on a quest to find more female stand-up comedians lately. They’re out there, and there’s a lot of funny ones. But there’s this pervasive mindset that in order to be one, you have to put other women down, and stress that you aren’t really like all those other girls, you know, the “normal” girls who are awful.

Like comedy is this private club and the password is “women suck”.

Thankfully, I’ve found lots and lots of awesome lady comedians who get by without resorting to that, proving that it is possible so no one has any excuse to keep doing it. And makes me feel better that someday, I can have some decent success at it.

Still love this. 

asdfghjkl. I take a little issue with this. I’m all for communicating the fact that social stereotypes are fucked up, and reforming our collective perceptions as much as possible. and no, I don’t think a person should say that all X are Y, unless it’s been absolutely proven.  however, in my experience (which I admit is not extensive, but I have lived in close, real, gritty quarters with six different women, not including my sister), the ways that the women in my life have been brought up to fight, solve problems, and compromise (or not, which has usually been the case) is nasty. it is catty. maybe that’s society telling girls that’s how you’re “supposed” to fight, but there are certainly a lot of personal, concrete examples for me that this is fairly true of women who have entered my life. of course there are exceptions; one of my best friends is a beautiful, wonderful, flawed young woman I love dearly, who has, over the course of our 20-some year friendship, really become a person I want on my side: she’s honest without being cruel, she’s thoughtful without being flighty, and she’s an excellent compromiser. I don’t assign these traits to her because she “acts like a man.”  I don’t assign these traits to her for any reason beyond my personal, individual experience with her. the same goes for the women girls who have been negative factors in my life: I don’t assign those traits to them because they have vaginas or a high level of estrogen, I assign them because that’s how they act.

then, though, when I encounter others who act in a similar manner as people who have been assholes to me or who carry themselves with the same demeanor – male or female – I then hear those warning bells and become wary that they will consequently behave themselves in the same ways. I’ve been fucked over and stepped on by too many people not to do that. now, back to my issue with the original post: most of my negative experiences have been had with people who identify as female. I’m not here to say “females act a certain way, girls are bad, women are catty,” but in my experience, they get that way with me. so yeah, I may be more wary of girls and their behavior with me – but that’s a personal, trained response. I’m open to being friends with identified females, certainly, but the more those same behavioral patterns emerge in an individual, the more gunshy I become, both with them and in the future.

if I’d had a different general experience, I firmly believe that I am a rational enough human being to not buy into the stereotype of cattiness. but the stereotype makes sense to me. so I personally disagree with the sentiment of this post.

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So are you saying you don’t hate women because they are all caty, but you hate catty women? 

Because that seems reasonable. 

thaaat’s a pretty good summary, I guess, but my objection to the original post was that it’s hard not to put things in categories, and when your personal experiences makes certain categories (read: stereotypes) seem true, it’s perhaps not such a crime.

as long as you maintain an open mind about what exactly it is that you’re categorizing. for example, I’ve often been asked why I don’t have very many female friends, and my answer is, “because girls are almost always catty with me.”  I do qualify it with that “almost always,” but I still have gotten some pretty harsh feedback similar to the above picture. I guess my point is that you only have your experience, and if your experience is that “girls are catty to me,” that’s not necessarily buying into gender stereotypes of society, that’s just stating a personal fact.

so I suppose the line needs to be drawn between the two things (personal experience vs. universal truth) pretty clearly? idk.

EDIT: added “to me” to that sentence. that’s more clear.